The Cinephile's Aisle
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The Cinephile's Aisle
Episode 7: "Snow Lands On Top"
The Hunger Games franchise continues to release films with compound sentences for titles that no one is ever going to call them by, but Episode 7 sees Ofili and Steve fueling their teenage nostalgia by discussing "The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes" (12:20). As always, they discuss what they've been watching (4:25) including 'Thanksgiving movies', or the lack thereof, and all the fury set in dystopian Australia from the new Mad Max (26:00), or as Steve calls it, 'Fast & Furiosa'. The episode concludes with a run through of the insanely stacked release lineup in December (30:40), some of which you definitely would want to see in theaters!
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All right. Welcome back to another episode of your favorite podcast, TCA. Your favorite podcast. We should start introducing it with that. Apparently, we're seen from People's Wrapped. We are on People's Wrapped. Do you understand how crazy that is? And we just started, bro. We're five episodes deep or six episodes deep. And we are on People's Wrapped.
SPEAKER_00:Shout out everyone. If we were on your raped five, top ten, top anything at all, the fact that we're even being listened to. Absolutely.
Ofili:Absolutely. Um special shout out to Irima that every episode drops some analysis on the episode and the reactions. Honestly, the more people that do that, we will read those. Yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_00:Especially Irima, thank you so much. I've never met this person, but I get the messages. A feeling sends them to me. And your commentary is so funny. So funny.
Ofili:We need to have her on the podcast, one episode. Yeah. Yeah. How's your week, bro? My week. Week is my week was interesting, kinda like. Um it was Thanksgiving, I guess, since like the last time we recorded.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
Ofili:So spend that watching the morning show. Oh, finally. We love where people watching the morning show, made some stew chicken. Um what else did I do? Man, I really I watched ball. Really? That was it. Yeah. Um something funny happened actually during my week. So one of my friends, his relationship has been. It's not funny what I'm about to say, but his relationship had been struggling, and he hit a parlay. Oh hey, we all got a parlay. And it's so fucking funny because like I think it was one of them, like, you know, I'm just gonna toss money into a gambles, and he put like five dollars, and the parlay hit, and he got like 1600 back. I don't know what kind of parlay this was, but he got like 1600 back, and immediately he got his girlflowers. I said, bro, oh that was going somewhere else.
SPEAKER_00:No, for real, for real. That's nice.
Ofili:He got his girl's flowers, got his girlflowers, and he took her out. I was like, wow, you know, who said gambling is bad?
SPEAKER_00:They don't like to be called gamblers these days, they call themselves data analysts or something like that. Don't kill me. Uh what about you? How's your week been? My week was good. I risk of sounding like a dating podcast because part of the feedback we got last time was that we spent too much time talking about relationships and weddings and stuff. So I would not be having any relationship top. My week was good. Um, I don't know if you remember, but my exam, I wrote an exam last month. Yeah, I remember that exam. My results come out tomorrow at 10 a.m. ESD. So I've spent a lot of you know dreading and because my co-workers are talking, there's a bunch of us that wrote the exam, and like bro, one of my co-workers was suggested that we all get on the call and check the results at the same time. And I'm like, I will not be there. But I'll be there, I will definitely not be there. Because if I'm the only one that I'm the only one that did not pass, OMG, bro. I'm the only one that uh uh uh I'm losing it, bro. Uh uh, I'll just start lying, or I'll freeze, I'll act like my friends.
Ofili:Of course I have to lie, of course I have to lie.
SPEAKER_00:So, yeah, so that's what I've been mostly looking forward to. I had Thanksgiving, went to my college friend's house, and so that was nice. And yeah, just watch four. It's been a good week of Champions League, I will say though.
Ofili:Let's not like let's not people to sucker, but it's been a pretty like us uh we're not a football podcast, so let's just let's just move away. Let's leave it at that. Especially when my team is not, you know, we're not teaming right now.
SPEAKER_00:I have a question. Um, you know how there's Christmas movies or like movies that people tend to watch during Christmas, and there's movies that people tend to watch, like summer movies and stuff. Yeah, do you have a Thanksgiving movie or is it like Thanksgiving movie?
Ofili:I knew you were gonna say that, but no. Actually, I remember if uh like there's this black Thanksgiving movie that came out a couple years ago. No, stop, don't do that. Don't do that, don't don't be like that. No, it's a good it's not like it's Hannah Perry kind of movie. Stop, bro. No, I think you say Madia Wina type movie. I'm asking. No, you just you just give it up vibes. I can see you, and I know what you mean, bro. But yeah, there's a movie, and it was like Danny Glover and some other people. It's it's a pretty good movie. But the thing is, I think this Thanksgiving, the only thing I actually watched was the actual Thanksgiving horror movie, and I'm not a fan of horror movies. Yeah. But Eli Roth did his big one on that. That was a good one. Yeah, okay. But I don't think they're Thanksgiving movies to say. What about you? What do you think about Thanksgiving movies?
SPEAKER_00:I think it's a it's I think there are, but it's not, they're not Thanksgiving movies. If it's if a movie is about families coming together, you know, like a reunion type theme, I think I automatically think of it as a Thanksgiving. But it has to have a certain theme to it. So in my head, the two right off the bat would be Knives Out and that 2019 movie, Why is it blank in my mind? The one where this the horror movie, she's getting married into this family, this weird family, and during the game ready or not, but I don't know. Ready or not? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah. Ready or not, thank you. That those would be Thanksgiving movies. So, like I've only seen Knives Out around Thanksgiving period. And you know, again, Knives Out is a Christmas movie, bro. Knives Now is not a Christmas movie, there's nothing Christmassy about Knives Out, huh? Nah, and the fact that it came out, they I think both of them came out around Thanksgiving because it's a Thanksgiving movie. But instead, I spent my Thanksgiving watching The Hunger Games in preparation for The Hunger Games, so um, and then I saw a bunch of other stuff too. I saw Sound of I rewatched Sound of Metal. Um I finally finally saw Whiplash. For those who don't know, Opheli has been convincing and trying to get me to watch Whiplash for time now, and I mean like for time. Basically the length of time that we've known each other.
Ofili:It's like I don't know how to say this. Whiplash is not it should not be in your top 20 movies. Oh, it's not. Yeah, it should not be, but if you are like a film bro, like self-acclaimed film, bro, we don't like it. Self-acclaimed film really intruding. If you're a quote unquote film guy, film loving person, film-loving girl, whatever, you kind of have to have seen Whiplash.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
Ofili:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. No, I it's my third, Damien Chazelle. And you know, you've seen one, you've seen it all. It's how I feel about him specifically. But I think that's how I feel about it.
Ofili:If I if I say who I feel how I feel who I feel that about, you're gonna be upset because you stand them.
SPEAKER_00:Who are you talking about? Zafty brothers.
Ofili:No, that's not that's very different though. Bro, whole every film you just know it's going to be peak anxiety throughout the majority of the film. You think there's going to be a good resolution, then no. No.
SPEAKER_00:What I was saying is theme, structure, like like not just like plot line. I mean everything. So um Babylon, for example, it's all about the grandiose. Like Whiplash is all about you know, the drums, even the the way they shoot the drum in, uh the way like the camera moves, the way the characters push themselves to the extreme. Like it's all similar across all like I'm thinking Lala Land, Whiplash, and Babylon, you know, and so in the moment, like watching both, I gave I gave I didn't like La La Land by the way, but I gave Whiplash a nine, I gave Babylon a nine. But then like a few weeks after, like I find myself thinking, bro, this is regular, you know, a regular film. So it catches up on you in the moment, but then after it, like I think it kind of wears it after all the grandiosity and has worn off. Sorry, you're just like, bro, this was a regular anyway. I liked it though, I really liked it.
Ofili:I'm not gonna lie, I did I loved Whiplast. Yeah, um, like I said, it's a movie that you kind of have to like experience for like man, how do I say this? There's just like a cinemas, like a cinema vibe, yeah, and whiplash has a cinema vibe, and like yeah, yeah. It's not necessarily a film that you would watch with family because they're going to be upset. Like, I can't imagine watching Whiplash with my mother, she's going to be so upset. Yeah. And what was your favorite scene in Whiplash, actually?
SPEAKER_00:What was my favorite scene? Has to be the time crunch when he was trying to get to the performance venue, and you could like he was acting like his life dependent on it, and you know, he got into the car accident.
Ofili:Yeah, I was gonna say he goes into the car accident, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he kept pushing, you know, he gets there, bloody obviously can't play, and then um the conductor tells him you're done, you know. And like that's when realization hits him that you know he just did all of this for nothing, or he's doing all of this for nothing. And this guy, like that he kind of idolized, you know, doesn't see him as anything other than just another member of the band. So yeah, it's not the climax, but it's like it sets up for it, like it's it's the midpoint because it's the culmination of everything that happened before that, and then it sets up at the end. I agree.
Ofili:I think at that point you don't you kind of expect a comeback story because it's one of those movies where like at you kind of at first like, oh, is the movie almost over? Like, is this dream over? Then you kind of like clock that like there's like 30 or 30 minutes after that in the movie, so you're like, oh no, like something is going to happen. Something that's going to happen, yeah. But my favorite part in the movie is the scene in the diner with his girlfriend, and he's breaking over her. Oh, I didn't like that scene for obvious reasons, but I didn't like that scene. It is so funny. I'm not gonna lie, it is so funny, and it's like a scene that is not meant to be funny, it's meant to be incredibly awkward and narcissistic to say, because he's basically saying you're going to get in get in the way of my dreams, and I'm going to deeply resent you. And it's a weird thing because it's something that you kind of like have a realization about later along the lines that you kind of resent this person for doing this back then. He's thinking so far ahead that he's like, Yeah, like I'm sorry. He's a he's a dick, but he's right. I don't know about him being right, but he's a bit correct. No, I mean like it's right, he's right for himself. Do you understand? Okay, he knows himself to the point. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
Ofili:It's like how self-aware people aren't always good people. Okay, actually what you're saying. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You can be incredibly self-aware, just a horrible person.
unknown:Okay.
Ofili:And I think that was just what it was. But I think another movie that we should like tune into, like being self-aware, like or connect to this is um what we both watched, or like the major theme of this, which is Snow Lands on Top. Which is Snowlands on Top. I'm not gonna lie, Snow Lands on Top makes me feel like I had one of those names. You know what I mean? Like one of those last names that's like you like you know, you pass on to your like children, and you pass on a rhyming thing, like a rhyming crest. Rhyming crest, yeah, okay. And it only works when you have like low-key, like city names like snow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, what did you how what did you let's start with ratings and then talk about how we felt about it. So to give context to this rating, I gave the original Hunger Games and Catching Fire, that's the second one. I gave them both tens, not because the movies were you know perfect or anything. Plus, I'm also generous with my ratings if I really, really enjoy something. But I felt like in that time, and I said this in the last episode, like no one was doing world building like them. Like that was like ground, not groundbreaking, because there's been fantasy, there's been dystopian films, but no one was doing it like this for like young adults. It's young adults, it's coming of age, it's dystopian, it's like fantasy, the culmination of all of this done so well. I felt like that was groundbreaking. So I gave them both 10s, and then the subsequent one, mucking J's, they were pretty bad. I give them like fives. But this one, um, I gave it a nine because it was so good and it was like made years after the fact obviously it should look better, but it did look better, but I felt like it was too long, bro.
Ofili:But I did not feel like it was too long, but I I can tell like the feeling of it dragging is like as soon as the actual Hunger Games ends, it feels like the movie's dragging from that point.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so I know what you mean. Yeah, I'll explain later as we go in the episode, but what about you? What do you think?
Ofili:But for me, okay, I would say honestly, I think I rated this like an 8.5. Okay. Like enjoyed it, was a good movie, was not a great movie, but I would recommend it to people.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
Ofili:Yeah. Yeah. I would recommend it to people. Um the soundtrack. Lucy Gray.
SPEAKER_00:Oof. Rachel Zegler is an actual singer though. Like she's a singer before she's an actress. I didn't know Rachel Zegler was an actress.
Ofili:I'm sorry, I knew she was an actress. I knew she was a singer. Yeah. And at first I kind of didn't like the southern vibes of it. Southern vibes. Because you can really hear how like southern her accent is. And you don't really hear it from like other characters from District 12. Yeah. I don't even know if a Katniss had like a southern accent. I don't think so. I don't remember. I don't think she did. So it's just like, where did this come from? But again, they're covey, they move around all the time, they're travelers. So it kind of works. You know, you can explain it away. But yeah, the voice, the singing carried me. Um, what else did I like about it? That you look exactly like your father. That um and he was proud of that. You get me? Yes. But it was not meant to be a good thing. It's like, especially with the end of the film in context, that way, like the last dialogue between him and Dick Lidge and is like discovering who actually started the Hunger Games and how this was meant to be like a fucking joke, and how he is now essentially the reason why the Hunger Games continues. Yeah. So it just kind of like I don't know, man. I I really enjoy the film in the sense of like that whole like to sound I I I'm sorry because we're about to sound philosophical here, but it's that whole, are we all doomed to become our parents? Oh and the second thing that like went through my head was it's very again, I'm so sorry because this is about to sound like weirdly philosophical and elitist. But if you ever read like Michavelli's The Prince, one of the first things that sticks in your head is destroy your enemies, do not wound them, and that is what he does throughout the film.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly.
Ofili:Throughout his life, throughout his life, throughout his life, yeah, and it's like even when he is paranoid to say, like quote unquote, even unsure, he's taking the necessary steps to like off you.
SPEAKER_00:No, um okay, so what I liked, I think you pretty much touched it. I really thought the casting was perfection. There's the only person that I thought was miscast initially going into it, funny to say, was Snow. Um interesting because I I did the rewatch of the first four, and President Snow is uh ruthless, like he's a basically a ruthless dictator. He's you know, everything that's bad with Western leadership piled up into one person, and he's really like beefy, he's like he's not big, he's not like but he's pretty like you know, thicker, and he's just like a bigger guy, and you know, Tom, he's not fit, he's not like Tom, in contrast, is really skinny, you know, really like small, thin white man, and he had to go blonde because President Snow was blonde, but like he's also not blonde. And so it was just like I felt like what is going on here. But the rest of the cast, especially Peter Dinklage, Peter Dinklage, from everything that you've seen him in, I think his strongest strength is like the way he relays dialogue, like every conversation that he has, even like Game of Thrones, for example.
Ofili:You feel that's why you tend to like his character because he loves playing that like insightful drunk, yes, exactly. That hates himself and hates the world, and like he's it's it's his niche, and he does it so well, he does it so well too.
SPEAKER_00:Violet Davis. I I'm not about to start with that. Everybody knows how I feel about her. I've said it too many times that I personally believe that she's the best actress alive and still very active. Um, I think she's a top of and she in no way disappoints. Very excellent. Um, obviously, Rachel Zegler, Hunter Schaefer. I thought the casting was pretty good, thought the storyline was pretty good too. Um, they're based on books, obviously, so you know, not too much deviation from the storyline. But it's always good when um, like this was the first one that was written to be adapted into a motion picture, and the author Suzanne Collins was very involved in the filmmaking process, so like that's why the story is good because like her vision is being brought to life exactly as intended. Now, my problem, my issue is why I said it was too long. Not that the film, the length, the runtime was long, but I don't actually think the runtime was the runtime wasn't. No, it's the runtime isn't like crazy, but the book itself is the longest book by far, and it's a hundred pages longer than Mockin Jade, the one that was before this, and Mockinjade was split into two parts. Like there was the part one and the part two, and this had three parts the first act, which was like the prequel basically, and then act two was the Hunger Games, and then act three was Snow. Um, I felt like act one and two went hand in hand because we're learning about like we're given like a brief background, and then in act two, we're seeing like the Hunger Games, and then I don't know if you remember, but like between act two and three, it's that like it wasn't even scenes, it was like a montage of like him getting his hair cut, him being assigned his punishment, and like there's no dialogue, it's just like transitioning because I think that I you like it too, but I felt like things were condensed. Act one and two could have been its own standalone story, like you know, we get the we get more background on each of the talking about potentially having like a part one and part two of a movie. Part one and part two, but part one would be acts ones and two, so like the prequel and the hunger games. Okay, and then part two of the film would be just like the entire snow thing, those as their own movies, and then we expand. No, wait, we expand on the acts, we expand on the actual characters, you know, we get more worldview than something that they're very good at, and then in part two, we just get snow, it's just snow, like in his, you know, we actually get the transition through it all. Like, I the the book was written so that no one knows what happens to Lucy Gray. She's meant to, even though she's sort of our protagonist in a way, in a way, in a way, yeah. But where she's also meant to have like an air of mystery around her towards the end. So like Suzanne wrote it in a way that no one knows whatever happened to her at the end of the day, like you know, so like we still there's that mystery, but like we could still guess some more of her, you know. I just felt and her band, her traveling band of singers, like bro, there we there's there's so much potential for more, but then Marking J flopped because it was in two parts, and so they felt like I was going to say that they felt like they didn't want to, you know, have to do that again, like they didn't want to, so they condensed it into one film, which it's evidently doing well, but at the same time like Steve, I I like your idea, but to be honest with you, I feel like I would not have watched Marking.
Ofili:No, I would not have watched Hungary Games if it was like part one and part two. Yeah, I would definitely not have watched it if it was part one and part two. Like this broken up thing, like it really stresses me out because I really hate when TV shows are broken into part one and part two.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, but there's been there've been cases of so I can I can I can list so many references, but the original Dune, Lynch's version, was a flop because it was condensed, you know.
Ofili:Yeah, because they had so much source material. Exactly. If the source material isn't too much source material, that's the problem.
SPEAKER_00:Because the world, like the world viewing here is better than Lynch's world viewing doesn't also doesn't mean that like how do I put this? You there's sometimes like you can do more with less. Like you have you break down the source material and you can do much. So you're saying, like, because the I wanted to talk about it, you have to have your thing.
Ofili:I think you need to think about it this way. They didn't need to display as much world building as you were talking in the game because they have four previous films that show enough of the world. This is the prequel, but it doesn't have to show you how it started in every other place. This is the prequel of the antagonist, Snow. And this is another thing that I was gonna mention. I'm really enjoying how we're having a lot having a couple more films that are antagonist-centric.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, yes, yeah.
Ofili:We know this person to be the bad guy, but we're just like the whole film is from their perspective, and I enjoy that massively, massively, because sometimes I feel like I'm not really caring, or like I don't think we need a reason why they're bad. Okay, I think I just want to see their thought process and how they're being bad. Yeah, how they got to where they are. I don't care about their motivations sometimes. A lot of times, like, and I think I got tired of these marvelesque villains that are. I knew we're gonna take Marvel. I just knew we're gonna take Marvel. Yeah, because they're like it's the biggest example of like the superhero thing where like the the villain or the bad guy has some super logical viewpoint, and oh maybe I can't argue with their logic, especially, but most times it really comes down to eugenics. I'm so fucking sorry. But like it makes I I'm just saying, eugenics cannot be like the solution to everything, yeah. But yeah, so I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I'm enjoying it. I enjoyed it. I would like to see, like, I would be there for whatever the where what whatever route they decide to go next. Like, there've been a couple more. Oh, we should get prequel for Hey Mitch, or like some other or like a sequel. How does Snow get from this version to that version and all of that? I would like to see where they go with this. I just think Across the Spider-Pers is another example of a film that's being broken into two, you know, like it's it's doable, but I hear you. It's doable, but I hear you don't need it.
Ofili:Yeah, there are so many other stories to tell. I'm not gonna lie. Like, I love this. Okay, yes, I love this. But it's not my favorite dystopian story at all.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
Ofili:Yeah. Do you have one that's that you prefer to this? Mad Max. Mad Max. Everyday. I don't think of my I like I don't picture that the rosa just came out with Anna Joy Taylor on the cover. I'm just like, sir, if you told me another Mad Max or part two of the fifth Hunger Games movie.
SPEAKER_00:Mad Max doesn't even like Mad Max doesn't even exist in the same on the same scale as the Hunger Games. Like that's because different type of dystopian look, brother, I'm gonna tell you this. Mad Max is a true dystopian film. It is, but we're talking young adults, we're talking coming of age, we're talking but how much these are different scales.
Ofili:I understand, but how much media development have they had, to be honest? They've had books for Hunger Games, they've had horror films for Hunger Games. Please, we need newer stories, we need other stories. This is exactly like them announcing another Fantastic Four movie. They've redone it twice.
SPEAKER_00:I don't like the analogy we're making here at all, man. Fantastic voice.
Ofili:And they're gonna give us another Superman movie.
SPEAKER_00:Hating of Batman or Superman is just insane because these are I don't even think I think the kids don't even watch Superman anymore.
Ofili:It's it's done. It's done. Like realistically, we need to start questioning studios. It's like, bro, how many times are you gonna re like repackage the rice and sell it to me, you know? It's like I know you can turn white rice to like fried rice, or you can turn you can turn it, you know, to fried rice or egg, and you can then add some pork, then you get like, well, it's still rice at the end of the day. It's still rice at the end of the day, right? Like, I know, I know. You think I'm hating, but I think realistically, like there is just so much more that can't be done.
SPEAKER_00:Fair enough. Yeah, fair enough. Um, but yeah, I will be there for a few years. I haven't seen the trailer. Um, I did a Mad Max rewatch last year or two years ago, and it was just like I must have watched it. The first time I saw it, I was probably too young to not too young because it wasn't that old. It was what 2015, 14, 15.
Ofili:The first time you watched Mad Max or the first Mad Max?
SPEAKER_00:The first time I saw the first Mad like Fury Road is what I'm talking about. Okay, yeah, yeah. I was it was 2015, yeah. So I was probably a little bit too young to grasp a lot of things, and then I rewatched it last year, and I'm like, this is actually insanely good, you know.
Ofili:It is so good, it is so good. So I haven't seen like it makes honestly even even Mad Max, that one has like how many movies that that has like four or five movies on its own right now, yeah. But like at least they're putting like years in between them. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_00:Um but Fury Road on the very very this is going to sound very juvenile and basic, but on the very basic level, it kind of shows what it kind of shows that the the the the minds or the brains behind the Fast and Furious films were onto something because because that is that is basically a race movie, man.
Ofili:That's basically what it is. It's just a race movie the same way Harry Potter is a Christmas movie. Okay, okay, okay. You know what's another Christmas movie, okay. We see a Christmas tree, it's snowing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It is a race movie at it at a very at its fundament most fundamental level, right? And there just it shows that you can do a lot by just cars go bro. That's it. Obviously, there's a lot of other concepts and a lot of that just good acting, good music, all of that. But yeah. I didn't deep that when I again I didn't deep most of this when I was watching, but last year when I rewatched it, I'm like, god damn.
Ofili:No, it was a great movie. If you read it a great movie, I think that came out in 2015. Yeah. So yeah, that was that was a time.
SPEAKER_00:So I'll be there for a few years, sir.
Ofili:Let's pivot right now into the things coming out in December. And I'll list them out. We're gonna react. These are some of not all, these are all the things, but these are quite the ones that I know and I remember.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
Ofili:December 1st, we have Godzilla minus one. Apparently, there are a lot of good things about that. How do you feel about Godzilla?
SPEAKER_00:The previews were tonight. I was thinking of going. Um because I a couple people I follow went to see it uh tonight. Um, I haven't seen anything Godzilla related. It's not my type of it's not my type of film. You've never seen Godzilla vs. Kong, like any of the things I have there? Nothing. Even the Apple TV show, the month the Monarch. Oh, Monarchy. I quit after the first episode.
Ofili:That does.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's not my type of it's not my type, so I don't think I'll be seeing that.
Ofili:I'm thinking about trying it over like the winter break and like just going through this powering through it. Because I'm going to be in Houston for like m like weeks, and I'm going to be very bored. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Even like adjacent to that, like Rise of the Planet of the Apes, um any of that, like you know, animals going gobbling mode just doesn't do it for me. I don't know why.
Ofili:Is it animals or is it monkeys? Tell me, bro.
SPEAKER_00:What's the second one? Please move on. Oh na.
Ofili:What's in there? Oh, we just move over, bro. Let me not start cooking. Because you you're in monkeys. Okay, next movie is uh Candy Cane Lane, Eddie Murphy in a Christmas movie. Uh September 1st and Amazon Prime. Next piece. Next, you don't have anything to say about that.
SPEAKER_00:I think I've outgrown Eddie Murphy, you know. I can't. Yeah, I think I have. That's fair. That's fair. The last one, the last one I saw was Doloma is my name.
Ofili:The last thing I saw was Doloma is my name, and that was fun.
SPEAKER_00:That was very good. It was fun. And he wasn't acting like it's he was goofy and funny, but he wasn't essentially a comedy. It was a comedy, but uh it was a comedy, but it wasn't being like a comic, you know. Yeah. Um, but that's I'm good.
Ofili:Next thing is May December. Comes out.
SPEAKER_00:I need to see that. I need to see that. The supported actor in that, um, I'm gonna try his name, Charles Melton. He's just won Best Supporting Actors. Yeah, he just won for that at the Gotham Award and the New York Film Critics Award.
Ofili:So yeah, that's the guy from yeah, Charles Melton is the guy from Riverdale. Yes, from Riverdale, and they just they bloom. Apparently, Riverdale to Oscar Pipeline is so is a real thing. So but I think it's only like one a year because I don't know, man. Maybe one year would be called Fraust.
SPEAKER_00:Um but yeah, I need to see that actually, and obviously, outside of side of him, Nati Portman, Julianne Moore. It was showing it was it there's like a Jersey film festival, and this was one of their highlights. I was considering going, but it was too far.
Ofili:We should have gone, it was good. Yeah, so that's December 1st. So now next thing that we have is the thing that you mentioned earlier, which is The Boy and the Heron, that comes out December 8th. Uh the high L Midiosaki film, Studio Ghibli. Of course, if you like Ghibli stuff, Ghibli is great, Ghibli is a fun time. Of course. Uh December 8th also is gonna be Poor Things, and we know, we know this is one of the top contenders.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Or she won Best Ac uh no, she the film won best film, I think. Best something.
Ofili:Um and the cast of this absolutely insane. It is Emma Stone. I know I I think Emma Stone is like what the reviews are saying that she is in content in contingent or my guy, she might win best actress. I don't know why I'm struggling, but we're just gonna go straight to it. She might win.
SPEAKER_00:It's been sad, but then people that also circulate the flower when they're like Lily Gaston's of force to reckon with. I understand, but I think we'll see.
Ofili:We'll see.
SPEAKER_00:One of these days we should we should like do actors' profiles, like on you know how we do films. We can do an actor or actress because Emma Stone has had a very interesting career.
Ofili:I think she's like an interesting pipeline, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Let's just say pipeline. She's she's good, she's really good, she's really talented, and it seems like she does a bunch of like different stuff, like she actually challenges herself. My guy, what are you saying? Different stuff, just say she does weird movies, bro. She does weird movies, but she also does fun stuff, is what I'm trying to say. Like she did Cruella.
Ofili:No, I'm saying, like, yeah, like Cruella is a weird movie. Like, she doesn't just like stick to like Oscar bait. That's it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay, okay.
Ofili:Yeah, she does weird stuff minus like the the like the major, like oh this should be like she does franchise stuff too.
SPEAKER_00:She does franchise stuff, she does like this in indies, she does distribute like whatever you say, distribute Oscar.
Ofili:Emma Stern has always been one of my favorite actresses because she is someone that you know they work, like they do you understand? Like they work, and like I say it, I don't mean I don't say this lightly, but actors who I feel like work, it's like acting is not some artisanal thing for them. It's like this is a job, and I'm putting my foot in it. I'm like, I'm going to do this. You're gonna see me in another job later this year, then maybe a TV show appearance, maybe some something on SNL. Yeah, I'm gonna get paid. Yeah, and that's basically like I debris like five this year. You're just hearing everything, you're just like, when did you rest? You can tell you're you're you're clocking in, you're pulling up like me.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, she's she's she's we need to do we need to do focuses, but she's she's pretty good.
Ofili:Yeah, absolutely. Next thing is Eileen, December 8th. Haven't heard too much about that?
SPEAKER_00:It's I have heard a lot of things. First of all, Anne Hathaway in anything. I was gonna say it's An Hathaway, though.
Ofili:I'm surprised I haven't heard that much about it.
SPEAKER_00:It's um I can give a brief preamble. It's basically this, it's not like a lesbian, it's not sapphic, but it's sapphic adjacent. And sorry, it's been on my list. Eileen has been on my list for some time now. Um, I guess Anne Hathaway is meant to be the love interest for Thomasy McKenzie. You know, they work in a prison. And even the trailer wasn't much a trailer, it was a teaser. Like they're being so tight-lipped and hush-hush about it. What?
Ofili:So that's interesting because I think it's also because again, it's December 8th, so it's the same time as like Boy in the Heron, same time as Poor Things, same time as the next film, which that one's gonna be on Netflix, though. The next film is Leave the World Behind, the Marshallah Lee movie with uh Ethan Hawke and Mayela Herrod and Julia Roberts. Oh, solid lineup, solid lineup, but I haven't heard anything about that. Oh, really? I've seen I've heard a couple of things, it's all question marked. Do you know who the filmmaker is? No, I do not remember. I do not remember. Yeah, then the last thing coming out that day is something that we're all very excited about. Zone of interest.
SPEAKER_00:Zone of interest will be there. Or just we shall see. Okay.
Ofili:That's actually that's coming out. Yeah, that's coming out December 8th. I'm not sure if it's 8th or 15th. But I know the 15th, the next thing that's coming out is Wonka. Oh, oh. If I start to talk, they'll say I'm talking again. Bro, I think I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? And I know it was on like my well, it's I don't know what I called it earlier, but like kind of like a gag guilty list. Yeah. Everyone's saying it's so good.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, bro. The review Ambergo lifted like two days ago, and all the reviews were flooded with masterpiece. I mean, bro, you love Paddington, you know what to expect from the foot from the person from the mind behind Paddington. I do. And like my concern wasn't even about the film being good. I knew it was going to be good. I have never doubted. My concern was Timothy. I think I said this, I don't know if it was on the podcast.
Ofili:Yeah, you said that he knows that he he doesn't have that juice to be quirky enough.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. And given the fact that he's typically the understudy, like the first time I got to see him as not the understudy was bones and all. But typically, like he hasn't had to, like, he's typically under someone's like working with you know, uh like a bigger name, like a yeah, like yeah, a bigger name or like a mentor figure, father figure, you know.
Ofili:Yeah, thinking Dune. Stop thinking about Dune. I said beautiful boy. I'm thinking beautiful. I know, I know what went through your head, but you were thinking Dune immediately. I was thinking, I was thinking everything beautiful boy, but okay. Um that's a crazy one though.
SPEAKER_00:Um or call me by your name, even too. Like he's always the younger person.
Ofili:You can't just have a film with him being a regular guy. But this but this time you were trauma.
SPEAKER_00:That's his that's his he just has that face that, like, yeah, this boy has been through some stuff in life, you know. I'm dying. And the way his demeanor, too. Yeah, I was concerned that he wouldn't be able to sorry, I was concerned he wouldn't be able to, you know, work with the younger, like a kid, but we'll see.
Ofili:Well, the next movie that Timothy Salome will be in will not be a trauma-filled film where he has to go through stuff. He will be really wonker, he will be excited. Sorry. Oh my god. Okay. December 20th is Maestro, Bradley Cooper. Do you know what is crazy? You know, well, oh my god. You know, you know that that picture. You know that meme where it's like flirting? And it's like, and in my head, it's like Tar is flirting, but Maestro is retro v harassment. Because everyone's hating on my stroke, crazy. No, the the critics love maestro. Apparently. Okay, okay. But like the general public, as soon as they saw his nose. Oh, oh. They don't care that it's an incredibly intense and physical performance. Don't care about that. All they care about is his nose. And you know what was wild. Tar actually had abuse in it. Hey, we shouldn't be laughing about that. No, I know, but it's just like the both films is just crazy.
SPEAKER_00:I think Maestro Maestro is going to be. Well, a lot of critics already have Bradley as their best actor winner. I think Maestro is going to be very heavily carried by the the acting. Carrie Mulligan is also apparently.
Ofili:Yeah, Carrie Mulligan and Bradley Cooper. Carry an award winner.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, both nominees. No, Cooper is if Cooper is a winner, it might be for production because he produced a lot of yeah, that's why I thought I don't think they were they're acting winners. I think they're both going to be carried a lot by the acting, so I'm very excited for that. I like a good clinic, a good acting clinic. Yeah. A clutch job, good clutch job.
Ofili:Another thing, iron claw comes out December 22nd. I will be there. You will be there. Interesting.
SPEAKER_00:Why would I not be there?
Ofili:I don't know. You just don't seem like an iron claw kind of guy. It just looks too damn, bro.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, Zach Epran, Jeremy Allen White, Harris Dickinson. I have nothing to hate there. That's fair. Yeah. That's fair. I was I was gonna say something, you know.
Ofili:What were you gonna say? I don't know, bro. Let me not cook. Especially because of Harris Dickinson. I'm kind of like falling into like his like well of things. Okay. Yeah. Because he's I just started this TV show called Murder at the End of the World.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
Ofili:And he's like, well, he's not a main character, but it's kind of murder mystery, and he's one of the individuals in it, and it's like really good. His his acting is really good.
SPEAKER_00:Is he just a murder a murder mystery person? Because see how they run Triangle of Sadness. Murder mystery is like, is that just what he does?
Ofili:Okay, I don't know, man, but I love his acting, and I like how like in most things he's like his vibe is very different. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. His vibe is like very different. So, yeah. Then we have all of us strangers or all of us strangers, I think. Strangers, yeah, yeah. December 22nd, that's Paul Mesco Clinic and Andy Scott.
SPEAKER_00:We've talked about Paul Mesco too much in this in this podcast. I'm not gonna lie.
Ofili:I feel like we talked about him for like two episodes.
SPEAKER_00:We've talked about him, his name has come up a few times.
Ofili:His name was Paul.
SPEAKER_00:I want to see that one because they were trying to sell the chemistry between both of them a lot on like during the press, but the people that have actually seen it have said that they don't have that much chemistry.
Ofili:I don't want to see that because I can kind of tell. See, the problem is I see Andrew Scott, I see the priest from Fleabag. And in my head, ain't no way that you're in a room with Paul Mesko and you don't pray for him. Yeah, like there's no way that you're scared. You don't pray for him.
SPEAKER_00:I see Andrew Scott and I see Moriarty from Sherlock. So that's like I didn't I didn't see much of fleabag, I couldn't get into it. But I get that. I told you. I just want to see where like what they do with it.
Ofili:I've told everyone fleabag is very similar to Peaky Blinders. You kind of have to power through that first episode. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But December is stacked.
Ofili:Damn. December is stacked. There's also anyone but you. The Sydney Sweeney and Glenn Powell thing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm I'm I'm fine skipping that, honestly. I'm very fine skipping that.
Ofili:Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. It doesn't look gas, but like I think I need to fill up on my rom-com quarter. Because I've been asking the cinema world for more rom coms, so I have to give it the views. I want rom coms, but not not like that. Like that, bro. And you know the thing? I'm not even like a fake relationship trope guy. Like they feel like kind of work for Christmas movies.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, those hallmark films, yeah. Yeah. I also don't think it's anyone but you season. Like that, what that brand of rom com, I don't think this is. Yeah, like I don't think this is the time for.
Ofili:Yeah. I don't know. I don't get it. It was like July. What? Yeah, anyone but you should have been like a peak, like start of summer movie.
SPEAKER_00:Start of the exactly that time when we were getting um right, right.
Ofili:Barbie, actually.
SPEAKER_00:Barbie, yeah, like those bottoms, that time period, whatever. Goofy. We forgot about the strike. Oh, yeah, that's true. Oh, my bad, my bad, yo, my bad.
Ofili:Definitely not a movie that is carried on like the name alone. You need to see the actors, the cat, yeah. Yeah, that's the whole point. But another movie coming out December 22nd. The Snyder Clinic, Snyder season, rubble moon. Oh, yeah, your your type of stuff part one. My type of stuff part one. This is crazy. It's just one film or two.
SPEAKER_00:So it's just one film, but okay.
Ofili:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um the trailer for that dropped, right? I think I remember seeing the trailer for that.
Ofili:It looked really good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was cast, yeah.
Ofili:Happy with that. Um, probably gonna watch it at home. It's December 22nd, comes out on Netflix. It's it's a good vibe, it's a good time. I think like I think I get to Houston like right before that drops, so I'll probably just be like marinating.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
Ofili:Yeah, till that I'll be trying. I'm 100% going to see this. I've been talking about this all year. The Michael Man Clinic Ferrari.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I will see, I will hit watch because I'm not a fan of Adam Driver. Um, I know, but I'm not a fan of films like this.
Ofili:You know what's kind of crazy to me? And I said this the first episode. I'm just stressed that the Italians let him play another Italian. Let him play another like significant Italian. What is going on?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I um I'll be hate watching for sure. I I hate watched House of Gucci too, so might as well just continue. Can't lie.
Ofili:I watched House of Gucci um with a friend, was thrown off by the sex scene with him and Gaiwa. Because you know, I was just like, oh, okay. This is this is what we have. This is what we have. But I'm excited for that lineup. I'm probably gonna see at least three or four of those things. Um yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, okay.
Ofili:Let's go to the my favorite segment to wrap things up. We have the game. Um, we hear a lot of good things about the game, so like I love that. So if anyone wants a particular film that you want me to oversimplify the plot, just send me send the name. Either send me the name if you have my number, or DM the podcast, you know, trying to get some interactions, trying to farm some interactions. Okay. Are you ready? First one. Uh, we're gonna put a spin on this. I'm gonna put the years in if you need a hint. I'm no longer gonna put context. Okay. I'm going to put so the first hint is always going to be year. Second hint might be an actor from it.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
Ofili:If I can recall an actor from it. And that is all you get. So first movie a group of professionals nap together to steal ideas.
SPEAKER_00:Nap together. They nap together to steal ideas. Marvels is one of the marvels one of them. The marvels, no. Napp together to steal ideas. Like sleep. Like sleep.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Inception? Okay. You got that one. Oh, yes, yes. And then the second one is the Noah, it's just one. It's just one. Oh, it's just one. Oh, okay, okay.
Ofili:Yeah, it's just one code. Okay. Okay. Next one. Group of friends go on a long walk to throw jewelry in a volcano.
SPEAKER_00:Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings. Ah, you are saying you were crazy for that one. That's the whole concept of Lord of the Rings.
Ofili:That's really it.
SPEAKER_00:I have one of these for you. Oh, okay, then hit. Yeah, but it's like similar to the ones you had done earlier on where it will be two movies. Again, one is like the actual movie while one is like a joke. Okay. So okay, I have one more for you. Oh.
Ofili:This one. Girl goes on summer vacation, finds a little bay overseas. Little bay overseas. And doesn't open the door to new new life for him.
SPEAKER_00:Girl, a girl goes on boy on vacation. Infinity pool.
Ofili:Ah, no. Girl meet a boy on vacation. And let's and you know she doesn't let him. Nah, nah. And doesn't see what? And doesn't there's no room for him.
SPEAKER_00:I don't understand what you're saying. She has no room for him. The girl meets the guy, but she has no room for the guy.
Ofili:Girl meets guy on vacation, and there's no room for him anymore. At the end of the vacation. Simplifying this one crazy. Um, but yeah. Just tell me. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna get it. She doesn't let him let him on the door.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not going to get it, bro. This makes no you're not using words. You're just saying girl meets guy and closes the door.
Ofili:Like, yeah, it's like she goes on a little trip, finds a little, you know, finds a little bull, and she doesn't let him on the door.
SPEAKER_00:What are you saying? These are the words, bro. She meets a guy and there's no room for him.
Ofili:There's no room on the door.
SPEAKER_00:Where? Room on the door. Yeah.
Ofili:I oh fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Look, the thing is that if I said it's too easy.
SPEAKER_00:That is easily by far the worst one you've ever done for me. I know. I I easily by far. Okay.
Ofili:You you did your best.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway. Titanic nigger. That's a tiny Christy off. I know. I know. That has been another successful episode of the TCA.
Ofili:The TCA. You know what's crazy? I think I texted this to you, but TCA. Look at it. If you reverse it, if you spin it around, spin the block on it.
SPEAKER_00:It's oh I don't know what you mean by that. It says act. Do you know what I mean? T C A A C T. Scratch that. Reverse it. A C T. Oh, we're good. We're good. We're good. Are you a good idea? Are you a good reverse it, bro? That's what I'm saying. I'm okay, yeah.
Ofili:Don't worry about me. I know, but like that's okay. Let me not let me not speak. Because if I speak. Alright. Thank you for listening in on this episode of the TCA in Center Falls Iowa. Hope you guys enjoy this. Catch you sometime before the year. Before the year, and we'll get you in another episode. Fingers crossed.
SPEAKER_00:Good night.
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