Episode 23: 10 Years Later

Ofili and Steve take us back to some of the 2015 releases (8:55) that left a mark on them in this episode of the TCA. The Lobster, Mad Max: Fury Road, Star Wars: The Force Awakens, Room, and Focus are some of the classics turning 10 this year that they touch on. They discuss certain films that they will never rewatch (29:40) like Fruitvale Station, before closing off with a celebration of female auteurs (33:00) in honor of Women's History Month. Let us know what you think via any of the links below!

Transcript

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of The Cinephile's Aisle.

We're back, we're back.

I think this is awesome.

It feels very scanty when it's just me and you now.

I feel like I got too used to having guests on the pod.

Where it's just us, the OGs.

I feel like we're missing someone.

No, I get it.

But I like these, I like our little one-on-ones, you get me?

Facts, bro.

Little chopper obsessions.

Facts, bro.

All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, this episode is not going to be a film review.

We're just going to chop it up and see where we land.

2025, we're in March right now.

How are you feeling, big dog?

Bro, the year is flying.

I don't know why.

Back in January, people were like, I can't believe it's still January, like next week is still, I feel like this year has been flying by so far.

I can't believe like March is almost over, bro.

I don't really have much to show for it this year so far.

Nah, I disagree.

I disagree, Victor.

What are you talking about?

You're opening new chapters in foreign lands.

I don't want to open these chapters, bro.

Take me back, bro.

I think I mean it more in like a personal sense.

Like, you know, you can judge where you are in the year.

You can like look at the things that you've done in a period of time.

Doesn't have to be a year.

Like, I turned in my Q1 reports at work, right?

Not to make this about work, but I turned in my Q1 report and I didn't do anything this quarter.

Like, I didn't do anything.

Not looking like, I think I've just been so caught up in the whole, you know, moving and settling down and doing this and figuring like little things like opening a bank account, like the very basic things have been so caught up in that, that I haven't really had time to like figure out what I want to do right now in this time.

You know what I mean?

I feel that.

Yeah, so that's how I just feel like this year is passing and time is passing and I'm not really passing with the time.

The time is just passing me by.

Hey man, every day you're above ground is a day.

Yeah, it's a day you can make someone shake essentially.

So, what about you, how have you been?

How's your year going?

Oh, not gonna lie, I'm actually kind of pissed because I recently found out that.

So, I thought that the AMC stuff, you know, the price raise was only going to affect.

So, they did two fucking things.

So, first of all, Illinois used to be in the lowest tier.

So, I could pay $20 and I'm cool.

19 something.

Now, it's no longer in the lowest tier.

And I thought the price raise is as well.

I thought we were going to be grandfathered in.

You know, they jumped that P for all of us, bro.

I thought that was only for the new people.

You hear me?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know?

I was under like, oh, four movies a month now.

I'm just like, a week now.

I said, bro, you don't even have four good movies.

A week, yeah.

That's my, that's always been my issue with the AMC.

Like, I feel like because when we go, they tell you straight up on limit set whatever you want to watch, right?

But AMC tries to make it seem like they're doing you a favor, bro.

Like usually most weeks, they're not up to three good movies that I want to see.

Like.

And I don't have time.

Yeah.

Like if I lived across the street from an AMC, like I feel like I would really use that for movies a week.

Maybe I'll even like re-watch some shit because it's right there.

But like, yeah.

But other than that, I think the year has just been, man, it's just been moving, like you said, bro.

Blink to end of Q1, you know, tough conversations at work these days.

You know, that's just that's what it is, bro.

You just got to sit some people down and be like, hmm.

That is so funny, man.

I always thought of my enemies, though.

But yeah, I know what you mean.

I know what you mean.

Yeah, it's crazy stuff, bro.

It's crazy stuff.

But, you know, we're pushing through.

Exactly.

But as of 2025, bro, you know, 10 years ago, 2015, that's crazy.

Yeah, bro, 2015 was when I graduated from college.

Yeah, yeah.

And this year we're having our 10-year reunion.

And I can't believe it.

He said college, bro.

Don't make these people think you're Asian like that.

He said, well, these, bro, like, let's relax.

He said from secondary school.

You know how back, the name of my secondary school was college, Leroy Lejezre College.

Oh, yeah, that's true.

Even mine.

That's why I just said that.

But it's a 10-year reunion.

And I'm like thinking about it like it hasn't been 10 years, but actually it has, bro.

And I've been seeing all these tweets of, oh, here are the songs that are turning 10 this year, or whatever.

And I'm like, ain't no way, bro.

Ain't no way, dog.

Bro, yeah.

Let me tell you something crazy, though.

Okay.

So I more, except I think I just clocked that it's been about 10 years because, well, nine years for me.

So 10 years is gonna be next year.

I just clocked that it's, yeah, it's been time because, okay, so you know, like right now, residency niggas are matching.

So it's all over Twitter, it's all over the timeline.

And growing up in boarding school at night, sometimes niggas will get physical with you, they will shake someone.

Someone is going to deaf you a little bit, bro.

So, especially if you're moving mad.

So, and this is so funny that I like, I think some of our guys, we've talked about this before because it's come up before.

But basically somebody got matched and you know, then somebody quoted the tweet, another guy from like our school, like our boarding school, that was like, oh, this was the first guy to ever like slap me.

And I'm like, big dog, that was in 2011.

Like come on bro, 2011.

It's 14 years, you've held that in your chest.

Bro, I see those tweets all the time and I kind of struggle with it because like, you can't tell someone how to hail them, move on.

You know what I mean?

No, I get it bro.

But at the same time, like bro, it's been a long time bro.

Like you can't seriously be holding on to this at this point.

I know at this point, they're not really looking for like any kind of retribution or any kind of punishments.

You know, maybe it's just like you're reminiscing on like, you know, parts of the journey.

Yeah.

Parts of the journey for that person.

You know, that kind of like, I hate that.

Unless it costs you some like serious trauma, bro.

Like unless like when you, you know, you still have PTSD from like certain situations or whatever, like, I don't know man, I think you're doing yourself a disservice by still keeping that stuff in there.

You're even remembering it, bro.

Bro, I repress so much of my memory from Loyola.

Like I genuinely, lots of the chunks are just blacked out and that's probably some traumatic response.

I don't know.

But a significant portion of Loyola is blank in my brain.

I don't remember this thing happened.

Just because like it's easier to do that and not have to deal with that, then to be holding on to those memories, bro.

Like if I see those seniors now, I'll probably dap them up and like kick you with them.

No, I think there's a difference, though.

I can't lie.

I think your school, it is just so much more integrated after university.

I mean, after secondary school.

Like I think there's a scarcity of the people that you see from my school, especially because a lot of us are pretty spread out.

A lot of you guys are in America now.

So, you guys see each other and you're kind of forced to be in those spaces where you have to interact.

So, like someone knows someone who knows someone, and it's just kind of like the same general circle.

But for me, bro, I do agree with what you're saying.

Little things like getting slapped, cool.

Move on, bro.

Because you probably did something to deserve getting slapped.

Not always.

Let's not justify it.

Not always.

But it's like, it's likely that you were moving a little mad, you know.

But.

Well, first of all, congrats to all the people that got matches.

Yeah, congrats to all of them.

Especially because they did it from like, like international.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shout out to you.

And to the people that didn't, you know, hang in there.

I saw a few tweets.

It's okay.

It's not the end of the world.

We'll get them next time.

We're waiting for you.

But speaking of things that happened 10 years ago.

10 years.

Part of those films that were released in 2015 are somehow turning 10.

Yeah, bro.

And I'm looking through the list right now and it's like some of them, I can't believe it.

No, it's actually insane.

Yeah.

It's actually insane.

Mind blown, actually.

I don't know what the craziest one I'm looking at is.

I'm thinking maybe The Lobster.

For some reason, I didn't know this one was 10, was 10, was like 2015.

I thought this was a little more recent just because of how novel it looked and how like interesting the script was.

I think so as well.

And I think because like it was like a rewatch or resurgence of like Colin Farrell's old stuff because of The Penguin.

I think so too.

Yeah.

I mean, the reason why I watched it more recently was because of poor things, right?

Yeah.

And I think that's part of why I can't believe the film is 10 years old because I'm like, has yoga's been this good for this long?

No, no.

When you actually deep how long certain people have been like that guy in film, insane.

Yeah.

Like the ideas have always been present.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, the lobster definitely caught me off guard.

Creed, the first Creed with Michael B.

Jordan was also turned 10 this year, which is crazy because that's true.

Yeah.

We've gone from that little boy, Cougar was showing the way and stuff like that.

And now Michael B.

Jordan's taken on the Creed franchise is the one running that shape over there.

So it's just crazy to see how far he's come in 10 years.

I wouldn't say the films have necessarily gotten any better, but I still enjoy them and I still watch them.

Yeah.

I think it's not really meant to be something that is like a really interesting story line.

I don't think it's meant to be anything ground breaking.

I think it's formulaic, but good.

Yeah, there are new elements that they tossed in.

Yeah.

And it's still, it's a good movie.

Do you get me?

Yeah.

I think the problem I'm wondering whether they'll fall into is thinking about how, whether they need to extend it.

Like, what do you mean?

I don't think they need a Creed 4.

Oh, it's already in development.

Yeah, you see, that's the problem.

That's the problem, that's the issue.

Yeah, Creed 4 is already in development.

They're going back to some more, like, they tie in all these stories from the past.

Of course, of course.

Yeah, they have to extend it, bro.

Like, checks have to get cashed, you know?

So you think that's what he was doing with, you think that's what he was doing with Joshua, Joshua Majors.

It's like soft launch in Creed 4.

It's like Big Dog, you know, we're back on screen.

I don't know.

I kind of think so, because he already took a role away from him.

Oh, absolutely.

The movie that's coming out, Frontline for our listeners.

Yeah, Frontline for our listeners.

Mickey 17 was supposed to be released Easter weekend.

Yeah.

Werner did like pre-testing or whatever.

And then they realized that for some reason, Mickey 17 wasn't testing that well, which I don't know why, I don't know how studios get people to make these films or to like, you know, when they do like the little previews or whatever.

Because I don't, I can't see, like this is a blockbuster.

This is a summer movie.

I feel like Big Dog.

I really don't.

I feel so bad that, yeah, theater I watched then was bad.

What's that?

And I watched it on like a Wednesday.

What's insane to me is that I really don't get how they, like how, why is Mickey 17 at the start of the Oscar period?

Do you get me?

So basically, by the time the next Oscars come out, it's gonna fall into the Dune thing.

That's part of it.

That's part of what I'm saying.

Because remember, this one was done for a while.

It was meant to be released a long time ago, especially for The Strikes.

It just wasn't testing well.

So that's probably part of why it's released so early in the film calendar.

It's probably because they don't have any, they're not banking on this.

Fair enough.

They don't plan for it, man.

That's great.

But anyway, so-

Because I think it's already moved to digital.

It's about to move into digital very soon.

Ten days in cinema is crazy.

That's what I'm saying.

It was all in the testing.

So from the get-go, the promotion.

This was the plan.

They had a press tour in Japan and China or a bunch of places.

They didn't really have much of a press in the US.

That's true.

They didn't test well.

But anyway, I started talking about this because-

I think that's a little bit racist.

I think they did that because of a little racism.

You get me, bro.

You got Steven Yeun, you got Bong Joon-ho.

I don't know.

I feel like I know what they were thinking.

And it's not good.

I think you just tested that for the production of my videos.

Bro, you know that kind of people, you know.

Anyway, Sinners is coming out.

Sinners was supposed to be the earlier release.

Yeah, they swapped it.

They swapped it because they're hoping to make more money from Sinners, which doesn't really make sense to me because that's a scary movie.

But anyway, so I think John Majors was supposed to be the-

He was meant to be the-

I think, yeah, it's like they're two brothers, yeah.

But now they have like a parent trap situation with Michael Stewart.

It's so crazy because like, if, like, sorry, obviously I'm not advocating for like whatever, whatever punishment society has deemed John Majors to have, whatever, whatever.

But it's just so crazy to me that you can like mess up your bag and like Hollywood is just going to pay for it, like, I don't know, man.

Like, it's just jarring to me.

Like, if I was the one that was prepping for that role and all of that, and all of a sudden, like my friend, someone I would call my friend in society has to like use a double to act as me.

Bro, I'm going to be so tired, like come opening day, man.

Like, I'm not watching the movie anymore.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

It's just kind of messed up.

But I think it's also because I think what happened was the Marvel whole backdrop, the Marvel fumble, were played.

So they noticed that, damn, people do want to watch a black vampire movie.

Yeah.

So I think that's where Kugler was like, well, well, might not be MCU.

Yeah, that's it.

That's it.

So that's another one that turned 10, Creed.

Yeah.

I got Inside Out.

Ooh, Inside Out.

10?

Crazy.

Oh, it's so crazy because we just saw the second one last year.

Yeah.

I believe Inside Out is two years.

That's a great film.

I don't care what anyone says.

Oh, that's a phenomenal film.

Inside Out, amazing.

Like I prefer to obviously because the way we're more depth, more new emotions, more complicated stuff.

Yeah, exactly.

But Inside Out classic in my book.

Another one that we just got the sequel or prequel for Mad Max, Fury Road.

Cannot believe.

I think I've seen Mad Max maybe three times in the last three years before.

Another film that I feel like was ahead of the time.

Even though it's part of a legacy franchise or whatever, but that film, the standalone Mad Max Fury Road, I feel like it was ahead of its time.

But I'm glad that it's very appreciated and people still have it really high up there and stuff.

Yeah, I think another one that comes to mind when I think about 2015 is probably Focus, Will Smith and Margot Robbie.

That was my favorite movie for a time.

What?

What the hell?

For like seven years.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would say that that was my favorite film.

I would tell people that that was my favorite movie so long.

I think there's something so, because it's not like an objective, like super, super great movie or anything.

Well, I think Will Smith just playing bad boy with Marco Roby.

It's just like, yeah, bro, this is for me.

Yeah.

I get what you're saying.

I think for me, like, I think I definitely agree.

For me, it's, yeah, it's the charisma between both of them.

But more importantly, it was such a good heist movie.

Yeah.

And it was very quotable.

There were just so many lines that they were firing off, firing off.

It's crazy.

And it was a fun time.

Like, I think that was the movie that taught me that is it like Wu is 44 in Japanese?

Could have that fucking scene.

Yeah.

So I think Wu is four.

Yeah.

So it was just crazy.

It was funny as fuck to me.

I think, I think, like, we don't get many really great heist films.

And I think that's, maybe we can even do an episode on this one time.

But I think that's an area that society has fallen off.

Like people talk all the time about how we don't get enough original rom-coms anymore, which I don't necessarily fully agree with.

I think people just don't watch them anymore.

Like we get all the rom-coms that come out.

Maybe we're not getting, you know, the consistent Maxi-comic and whatever classics that we used to get in the past, but we get rom-coms every year.

We get rom-coms every year and they're not always good.

We've been crying that we don't get as many rom-coms anymore, but I feel like we are consistently getting, we're getting teenagers rom-coms, we're getting young adult rom-coms, we're getting old man, young woman rom-coms, we're getting sexual orientation rom-coms, we're getting LGBTQ rom-coms, we're getting age play rom-coms like crazy on both genders.

Like, I think older women are having it hard for like a couple movies now, like Baby Girl was something, but like...

Baby Girl was something, exactly.

That was, you know, considered by them a romantic comedy.

And they're getting theatrical releases, so...

Exactly.

So I don't think, like that's one I don't necessarily agree with, but when it comes to like good heist films, I think the Fast and Furious franchise just ruined that for us.

And I think like as someone who enjoys Now You See Me, I'm glad that we're getting the third one.

But even that, I can't say, like Now You See Me was ever my favorite film, the way I would like call Focus like a good film.

You know what I mean?

Like I think the Fast and Furious is in the oceans.

That kind of just made heist have to be this fast paced franchise, whatever sequel, like you have to make 10, 12 of the films, you know?

So original stories just weren't getting as greenlit as much.

And it's a real chance to see grow.

No, I get what you're saying.

But I think we went from quality, like the inside man, which didn't feel like it cost that much money.

The town didn't feel like it cost that much money.

We got Inception.

We know that shit cost a brick.

A lot of money.

We know that shit cost a brick.

Then we got like, I think the downfall actually probably came from Baby Driver.

I liked Baby Driver, dude.

Yes, but a lot of people did not like Baby Driver.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I think Baby Driver was the downfall.

I could see Baby Driver being the cousin.

So I like Baby Driver.

Because I think after that, there hasn't been like great ones.

Like there's been like heist adjacent movies where like Ant-Man, did you get me?

Like they've been, the Italian Job, like there's, the Italian Job is a great heist movie actually.

It's so crazy that you call Ant-Man a heist movie, but really that's what it is.

No, it is.

It is.

That's what it is.

I know.

I agree.

Yeah.

That's, I feel like that's just kind of how you have to look at, like some of these Marvel movies, like the superhero part is just like an added things, an added bonus.

At its core, what they're trying to make is something else.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like The Man From Uncle, I would argue that is a heist movie masquerading as a spy movie.

No.

Okay.

That one, I agree with Ant-Man.

I don't agree with The Man From Uncle.

I feel like The Man From Uncle is a spy movie, but they have like two subplots or key subplots using a heist as their storytelling technique or whatever.

Yeah.

Because after the heist is completed, the movie still goes on and there's still a lot of movie runtime left in the film.

That's fair.

That's fair.

Yeah.

But The Man From Uncle does 1010 this year as well.

Oh, that's 2015 as well.

We're cooking.

How did you feel about The Man From Uncle?

You felt the same.

Man, I don't think Harry Cavill is meant to be like...

I don't know.

I think he needs to be in period pieces.

That's just it.

Okay.

Yeah.

I think he is not...

Fuck.

I actually did not even really like him in The Witcher.

So that's actually very funny that I just said he needs to be in period pieces.

Jesus Christ.

And this is the thing.

This is the problem is that so many people don't like him in certain things, but then it's like, okay, so where should he be?

Right?

I get what you mean.

And it's like no one can say.

Like people don't like...

People didn't like him as Superman.

That's not...

No one has that.

Everyone hated him.

And then people didn't like The Witcher because of him, even though I like The Witcher.

I don't know if it's because of him, but I like The Witcher.

People don't like him as a spy.

People don't like him as...

So it's like, where do we want society?

No one...

Remember when he was the lead to replace Craig as Bones?

Yeah, that was true.

And they were like, his shoulders are too broad.

I was like, fair point.

What a broad society you want Henry Cavill to be.

Dog.

That's actually mad funny that you said that.

But think about another movie.

How do you feel about like, well, Jurassic World?

How do you feel about that?

That was a Chris Pratt one.

So yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I did a, I did a rewatch of the whole thing because I don't know why I did that.

But the new one.

There's a new one coming out.

Yeah, a new one coming out.

So I did a rewatch.

Scar Joe.

I don't know that I should have, but the first one, the Jurassic World one, it turns 10.

Yeah.

I actually like that one.

So there's a theme with some films when, you know, and The Hunger Games suffers from this as well.

When you have a really good film or an OK film, right?

But then like, it does really well, like a billion dollars or 700 million dollars.

Absolutely.

You start to double down on the things that you thought meet the film that good, and the whole time you just strip the film of all its soul.

So I feel like Jurassic World had soul, right?

It had the actors, like the strength wasn't the actors.

They would have a few scenes where they tried to do that whole spill wreck thing of like introducing something so jaw dropping, like the dinosaurs, which you don't get to see every day.

But then they're not focusing on that for the entire runtime.

They're focusing on the cast.

Like they recognize that the strength is in the cast, while the dinosaur is just spectacle.

And Jurassic World had that, like the strength was in the cast.

The literal poster of the film is the center, like it has what's-his-face, track, has the center of the film.

And then after that, the whole thing just became about, let's see how bigger we can get.

How much bigger can we make these dinosaurs?

How much more gore?

How much more claws can we give them?

And all of that, like you're becoming the thing that you're teaching us your movies about, like you're becoming the villain essentially.

But I like Jurassic World.

I still have faith in these films because I guess they're produced by Spielberg, I think.

I don't know.

But I still have faith in them.

So I'm going to be there.

I think I'll be there for the next one.

No, I was like, okay, so I the marketing budget on Jurassic Park is fucking insane because almost every movie you go watch right now, it's going to be a little cheddar.

I mean, they consistently make a billion.

Bro, the last one, nobody even knew came out, made like $1.4 billion.

They are printing money.

No, it's like, I think it's universal.

Whenever they have one of these come out, you just know that they're about to have six weeks number one at the box office.

No, for real.

I'm just so used to it at this point, bro.

No, I get it because it's also, I think, July.

So I'm like, dog, you know what?

Summer is around the corner, bro.

It's time for the spring cut.

Yeah, I think the last one of the 2015 bunch I want to talk about is the one, the only Star Wars Force Awakens.

How do you feel?

How do you feel about Daisy Ridley?

You never saw that?

I've never seen the front act.

I've never seen a Star Wars show.

Interesting.

No, this is insane.

Because that means you never saw...

So did you ever...

You didn't fall into the Mandalorian hype?

No, not once.

Wow.

Never ever.

You were just like, that's not for me.

I'm not going to do it.

Not for me.

Which is so crazy because I loved you, but not once.

You don't like Pedro Pascal?

That's it?

I like Pedro Pascal.

Oh, it's crazy.

Bro, what are you trying to do there?

I don't know.

You don't like John Boyega?

Are you trying to call me racist?

I don't know.

I don't know, man.

The first one with, like, you know, black lead, you're like, I don't want to watch it.

I'm not a fan of Star Wars.

That is hilarious as hell.

So what is it about the Star Wars franchise that chose you guys in?

Man, what's it about Dune that draws you in?

The scale.

I've never seen anything on that scale ever.

You didn't watch Star Wars.

It's the same scale.

Star Wars literally copied from Dune.

Like the original Herbert book you're talking about.

Yeah.

Man, I don't know.

I've heard this before.

You know, like I've heard-

Yeah, like we've talked about how like Arrakis is Tatooine basically.

Like, you know, yeah.

It just doesn't, like I see the lightsabers and I see like the flash, you know, like I've seen the videos and it just seems all computer generated to me.

Not same Dune, but like it just feels very animated and I'm just not, it's not for me.

It's very fair.

That's cool.

On Apple TV, I watch Foundation when I feel like I want like a space thing.

Okay.

Yeah, that's really good.

I'm not gonna lie.

That's that's insane.

But yeah, I want to transition into I think 2015 was the year that Brie Lawson won for Room.

Oh, I think so, too.

Did you watch that?

I did.

I saw Room.

I've seen Room twice, actually.

Oh, twice.

Yeah.

It's one of those.

It's one of my problems.

It's one of my sad, not sad as in I'm sad, sad as in SAD.

So just because I can't watch it without.

Yeah, I can't watch it without tearing up.

But man, Brie Cook.

Brie Lawson.

It's an insane concept.

And I don't remember if it was a true life story, but I felt like it's like very feasible.

And that's why it hurts.

Yeah.

Go on.

I think it's the I don't want to say relatability because I cannot relate to that, but I can relate to the cast.

Like I can relate to the to the script, like the things the words are coming out of their mouth.

It just feels so real.

Maybe relatability is in the word realness.

It's the realness of it that really is.

And like Brie and Tremblay, the kid, right?

They're just able to like be real people, bro.

You know what I mean?

In a story that's about something so horrific, like it's actually so like horrible.

It's actually insane.

But I get like the whole point of like the little joys, you know?

Yeah.

But yeah, insane movie.

It's in my tucked away folder of movies that I never watch again.

Oh.

Yeah.

Wow, okay.

Do you know what movies are on top of my list?

Which one?

Fruitvale Station.

Oh, yeah.

I watched that shit once.

I was like, okay.

I watched that when I just came to the US, mind you.

Fruitvale Station.

Same.

Same.

That was my introduction to Police Vitality, if I'm being honest.

It was not my introduction, but it was one of those very visceral reactions.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think I watched it after, like, when was it?

One of those kids, like, Trevor, Trevon.

Trevor Martin.

Yeah.

One of them.

One of them.

Because I think that was also when I came to the US.

Oh, my bad.

Yeah.

For me, it was Sandra Blatt.

Oh.

Yeah.

Because that was in 2016.

Yeah.

I thought it was the year that Zimmerman killed that kid.

Zimmerman.

Oh, no, no, no, no.

I want to say, Fruitvale Station is 2013.

But for me, I watched it 2016 when I came to America, and that was, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So mine was when Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin.

That's pretty, I'm pretty sure that's when during the whole protest and the whatever, that's when the film was released, and that's when I saw it.

So for me, it was very, like, very much so, this is what happens, like, this is America, like, this is my, like, this is what happened, you know what I mean?

No, I get what you mean, bro.

It scarred me in that way, and so I just, I've never seen this again.

Yeah, for me, that's kind of like the, it's a similar vibe.

So I can't watch it anymore.

That's fair.

Yeah, that's fair.

For me, the one that's number one on that list for me is One Day and Hathaway Blast It.

Really?

I would never be watching it again.

Okay, I can't re-watch it again because things are just burned into my memory.

Like, I really hate how good my memory is for movies because I just can't enjoy it.

I just can't fucking enjoy it.

Like, I really hate ADHD stuff because I, sometimes I can't even enjoy, I can't enjoy like predictable movies that I've not watched.

Like, I'm watching it for the first time.

My brain is doing the pattern recognition thing.

So I can't, I'm not going to enjoy it because I'm going to be like, oh, okay, this isn't going to happen next.

This is going to happen.

So I really fucking hate that.

So when I have to watch a movie that I've already watched, so tough.

So I typically, that's why I typically can't re-watch something unless I am getting joy from the re-watch.

You know, it's like a different kind of like serotonin boost.

You get me?

I see.

It's like a, yeah, comfort type.

But yeah, one day when the TV show came out, I think last year, it's like around this time last year, I tried re-watching it and then I was like, oh no, bro, it don't hit the same without Anne Hathaway dying.

Because insane that they went through all that.

That is so crazy to say, bro.

All of that, big dog.

So crazy to say, but I feel you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anyway, let's pivot up from 2015 films to our TCA celebration of Women's History, because it is Women's History Month.

Women's History Month.

Hopefully this episode drops while it's still Women's History Month, knowing us, you know.

This feels like one of those TikTok videos where you're like, for $5, name a woman, bro.

Name five women you know right now.

No, I love, I love, there's some films that mean a lot to me that, you know, that had, I felt like if you had another person or a man in the writers room, it would not have hit the same at all, for sure.

You have some of those.

Where you cooking?

Oh, I was trying to see if you had some of those, because I can go.

I want you to go first.

I want you to go first.

Okay.

I think anything that Greta Gerwig has put her hand in, like I'm trying to imagine a version of the Ladybirds that exist with it.

I just want your listeners to know that Steve started off by shouting out Women's History Month with a movie that is called Little Women.

Just want to say, crazy.

First of all, I was not even going to reference Little Women.

I was going to talk about Lady Bird.

Lady Bird, bro.

But Little Women is also another one, like, and Little Women, obviously, the name is Little Women.

But the movies about how these women are, in fact, not little, and they have their own lives, their big lives and whatever, full lives.

But Little Women, Barbie, Lady Bird, which is Greta Gerwig's trifecta, like each of these movies are so woman-centered.

And so, like, it's about, it's an original, like almost feminist tale or tales, almost, Barbie, especially Barbie, I guess Barbie.

Feminist.

Yeah.

Feminist, like tales, they're all seek to empower women.

And not just that the films seek out to do these things, but women have watched these films and come out of these films feeling like super empowered.

And, you know, we all had that, like the around the world montage from Barbie and how, you know, we made a billion dollars, 1.7, whatever, and like everyone talking about it, how it was so refreshing to see that on screen.

So I think you don't get this, these experiences or these reactions from someone that doesn't have a personal connection to this theory.

So that's why Greta's films are so important.

Yeah, I definitely agree with Greta's films being, man, just uniquely about the female experience.

I think just across board, you know, it's just really, it's really impressive work.

And I really hate that, like, typically, like, you know, there's just like an insane outrage from like Red Pill guys who just, you know, I, I, I, I've forgotten what his name is that went to watch Barbie, then like was like burning his shirt.

That's a part on it.

It's this popular guy that, like...

Men are weird, bro.

Yeah, bro.

Let's not be like that podcast.

Yeah, no, no, no.

I'm okay.

It's like, oh, men are weird.

Like, no, let's not do that.

But Lady Bird, banger.

Portraits of a Lady on Fire, banger.

Banger.

Um, I'm thinking The Farewell.

Oh, it's hard.

I don't know if you've seen that movie.

Oh, okay.

So it is the only movie by Aquafina, I know, that I would ever shout out.

Actually, was Aquafina in Zootopia?

I don't remember.

I feel like she might have been.

But my bad.

But The Farewell.

Yeah, I think you should go see that.

It is, shout out to Aquafina.

You've probably seen the trailer.

I don't know if it's A24, but it's, what's it called?

It's about basically the grandmother doesn't know that she's dying.

Yeah, because kind of in like, I think in their culture, it's like when you know you have cancer, you are more likely to die.

It's the knowing that you have cancer that kills you.

So she doesn't know she's dying.

So they kind of trick her into believing that like she's doing a, it's like a wedding, like it's a wedding for her daughter.

Okay.

Yeah.

So that gives the family a whole, like a chance to like come together and see her without her thinking, oh, like, what's going on?

Well, all these celebrations, like what's going on?

Yeah.

It just really talks really about, and I think Akofina is also like Chinese American in the film.

So it's kind of like being caught between cultural expectations and like just like your personal view of like the world.

Then the whole thing about-

I just added it to my watch.

You should, dog.

It's really great when it also looks like a generational difference and generational difference.

I love those movies, like heavy.

It's amazing.

Yeah.

How do you feel about After Sun?

I started it twice, never finished.

It's not for me.

Yeah.

I remember you said it, you were like, Paul Mesko, get out.

When they were talking about him potentially being born, you were like, so what?

So he can be depressed?

It's so crazy because I started out as a Paul Mesko fan and now it's like, he just-

I can't do it, man.

No, I get it, dog.

Especially, I feel like I was in his camp until, what's that movie dropped?

The new one with Denzel, Gladiator.

Yeah.

Because I was like, I feel like they would chose Paul Mesko because of his face and not because he is the blockbuster guy.

He should not.

I do not think that for such a legacy sequel, we are talking Ridley Scott, right?

This is big picture.

This is summer blockbuster.

Exactly.

I don't know that he is the one.

I think in that case, truly what you do is that you either platform someone completely new.

Completely new, yes.

Agree.

You either platform someone completely new.

No one is like, you found this guy and I wonder if he is from Morocco.

Or you get like, yeah, you get like the blockbuster guy.

I agree completely.

Yes.

That's where they lost me.

Yeah, that's true.

Back to women directors, Sophia Capola.

We have to shout her out.

Shout her out.

Yeah, I think, you know, like usually when people come from a big family name or whatever, like in a cage or whatever, like when they start to exceed that, like you get to a point when you don't even, that you hear this person's name and you don't think about the, which I don't know if that's necessarily true for Capola because like, you know, everyone knows that.

I don't think we think about her dad that much.

Yeah, I know exactly.

Yeah, she stands alone in the films.

I think Virgin Suicide, what's the one translation?

Lost in Translation.

I think she's, and she came out with something last year, she's come out with something.

She came out with Priscilla, right?

Yeah, Priscilla was good.

Priscilla was good.

Yeah, so I think that these are all stories that again, maybe not exactly are women stories, but they center the woman more than if a man was telling the stories would, so especially Priscilla.

I think Chloe Zhao also, that was like a big one that we left out.

Nomadland, crazy, crazy.

I know everyone is going to say Nomadland when it comes to Chloe Zhao, but I just want to say as this Nomadland hater that I am, which I know is crazy to say, Eternals still remains Chloe Zhao's best film.

I would say so.

I would 100%.

Okay.

I was expecting a pushback.

No, actually, I felt like Eternals got so much hate for going in a much better direction of film than MCU was used to.

I think they went there too early.

Because I feel like if it came out now.

Now, yes.

Now that the MCU is clearly trying, like Thunderbolt, people are acting like, oh, someone called Thunderbolt an art house or he said he had an indie vibe or whatever.

And they posted them on Twitter, obviously, because it's MCU.

But now that that's the vibe that they're trying to present, it would have been better received.

But the ones that got it, got it.

The ones that got it, got it, big dog.

Yeah, before we sign off, do you have any recommendations, any movie recs that you think the listener should go watch, go find, you know, everything, things are just lost, things are in cinemas for 10 business days.

Now, you've given me a good one with the firmware because I read about it while you were talking.

And I can't believe I never heard about this.

Like I actually never did.

In terms of recommendations, I'm going to say, you know, in the history of, like, like we've just talked in the history of women's history, probably just find some, some film directed by a woman.

I think any of Sophia's films, honestly, are great.

I think Jane Campion is another one.

I would recommend The Power of the Dog if you're one of those people that didn't see it.

That it was big.

I think that would be my one recommendation for you because I wanted it to win Best Picture that year.

It ended up going to CODA, which is one of the worst decisions that the Academy has made.

But I think The Power of the Dog is a really moving, somber story.

It's kind of a slow burn, but it features very, very good acting by Cumberbatch and Cody Smith-McFee.

And again, it has the subtlety of a woman in the sense that the cast is well-respected.

It also has that couple, Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Plemons.

Oh yeah, we love, we love.

Whenever Plemons is on screen, like he just takes it to a whole new level, right?

So I think that will be my recommendation.

If I'm not mistaken, it's a Netflix original, so it should be on Netflix.

So yeah, that will be mine for my listeners.

I'm thinking right now, and I think, I think Shiver Baby was pretty good.

I'm not gonna lie.

Shiver Baby, yeah.

Emma Seligman, that was pretty good.

Whole being stuck in like, yeah, being stuck in that whole Shiver with your parents, like your sugar daddy, kind of a wild fucking thing.

Because I think the nigger's wife is there as well.

Yeah, she is.

Yeah.

I think another movie, I'm thinking, I don't know, actually.

I feel like if you want to go across the pond, Gina Kim has some great stuff.

Across the pond?

Yeah.

All the way to Korea, my guy.

All the way to Korea.

Who was that?

Who did he say?

Gina Kim.

G-I-N-A.

Kim.

She has, I think someone introduced me in like an earlier film cast, something called Comfortless, I think.

And it was kind of about a comfort woman.

Okay.

So basically how like sex workers in Korea.

Yeah.

Sean Baker-esque type stuff.

I know you don't like that.

Well, I think in the film, it was also meant to represent, I think, I don't remember, though, something that happened with the, I think she was either raped or abused by like an American soldier.

So it's also about like the effects of imperialism.

So, you know, we barred, we dropped them bars.

Yeah.

Yeah, I just looked her up.

It seems this is the film with Michelle Yeoh and her final recipe.

Looks like it was well received.

So that could be a good place to start.

Yeah.

But something more closer to home, we can always, always go to...

Well, Sophie Hyde has another one.

I don't know.

It depends on your vibe.

There's...

Yeah, Sophie Hyde has Good Luck to You, Leo Grande, which is another like age play thing.

I think I talked to you about this when we first dropped on Hulu, because I don't remember the...

I don't know the name of the guy, but like whenever he's in stuff, I just love him.

He's like so charismatic and he's like pretty cool.

He's also in Bad Sisters.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's a pretty, pretty good list.

This has been a good episode.

How do you feel, bro?

I feel good.

Yeah.

Ten years.

So those films are a ten in ten.

Make me feel like I've wasted some time.

But, you know, on to the next.

The next 25 is a great year.

So we've got some good stuff coming out and we'll try to cover them as we come out.

Yeah.

Before I sign off, you know, just want to let you guys know, you know, ten years like they passed before, they will pass again.

Just make sure you do something.

I wish I could play one of those motivational songs in my band.

Man.

Pastor Sealy.

Thanks bro.

That's a new business next bro.

A for-profit church.

That's what I need.

For hell.

All right.

Signing off guys.

Thank you for listening.

Until next time.